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A research into the House of Greene and their descendants in America

The Origin: The name originated in England. Greene or Green is believed to have been derived from the original "de Greene" (of the Green) or "The family living on the Green". The Green was a term that referred to the center of a town or village, ie. "Village Green". See the excerpt from the book by George Sears, bottom of this page. Remember, There were no Surnames prior to 1300-1400. A name is not an indication of your original ancestry. Results of my y-DNA testing show that my Branch of the Green line is R1B1C9*. This places the original ancestry in the area of Freisland, a province in the Netherlands. Coat of Arms: Three gold stags on a blue shield. Motto: Virtus semper viridis Translation: Virtue is always flourishing The earliest recorded Greene: This work deals with several of the GREENE lines arriving in America between 1635 and 1700. The majority of this research is on those who settled in Rhode Island and migrated to New York. Name variations associated with this House: Greene, Green, de Green, de Grene, De la Greene, Grini, Gruen (German) Along with an attempt at collecting my Green ancestry, I have also tried to gather ancestral data on each of my grandmothers. Below is the scheme so far and growing monthly. Robert A. GREEN m. Deborah J. CARICO (my-family) ^ Charles Baldwin. GREEN m. Marie L. WHEELER (parents) ^ Charles F. GREEN m. Jane Elida BALDWIN (grandparents) ^ Gardner D. GREEN m. Irene VALENTINE (G-grandparents) ^ John GREEN m. Martha DOUGLASS (GG-grandparents) ^ Unknown GREEN of Rhode Island Besides my Paternal GREEN ancestry, I am also directly related to 2 other GREEN lines through my Baldwin ancestry.  Grandmother, Jane BALDWIN'S Great Grandfather, Thomas Kidder BALDWIN was married to (1st) Dorcas GREEN, (2nd) Rachel GREEN, sisters. Dorcas & Rachel are descendants of Peter & Mary GREEN. Peter GREEN was the son of John GREEN of Haverhill MA. Mary GREEN was the daughter of Henry GREEN of Hampton NH. Interesting note. in 1692, the Mary GREEN mentioned above was tried and convicted for witch craft in the "Salem Witch Trials". She served a sentence and was later released.

this ancestry is dedicated to my great grandfather Gardner D. Green 21 NOV 1839 - 20 JUN 1914

Gardner D. Green (photo c.1890) Gardner D. Green was born on November 21, 1839 in Kirkland, Oneida County NY. He was the son of  John and Martha (nee Douglass) Green. His family lived in the same home from 1816 until the death of his father John in 1876. Gardner had 2 siblings, Lucietta Green, born November 1838 and died young, May 20th 1845. Gardner's brother Edward was born in September 1842 and died some time after 1910 in the Village of Ilion, German Flatts, Herkimer County NY. Gardner worked for his half-sister, Mary Jane Tarbox at their Inn in Clark Mills until he enlisted in the Union Army, at Dunkirk, Chautauqua County NY on September 3, 1864. He served as an bridge builder in the 15th NY Engineers. He was discharged at Ft Barry, VA on 13 Jun 1865. After his discharge, he migrated to Manchester, Washtenaw County MI where he met and married Irene (nee Valentine) Davenport, widow of Aaron Davenport. Gardner's half-sister, Aristeen Hall preceded him to Manchester and married Richard Hall the brother of her deceased husband Elisha Hall of Kirkland NY. This was probably the reason for his relocation from NY. Gardner later moved from Manchester to Jackson MI and again to nearby Onondaga, Ingham County MI. where he and Irene both died and were buried in the Onondaga Cemetery.

John Green 1790-1876 (GG-grandfather) Kirkland, Oneida NY Looking for the Ancestry of John & David Green

John GREEN was born in New York 09 Dec 1790, parents unknown, and died 03 Mar 1876.  His brother David GREEN born abt. 1785 in Rhode Island, lived with John until his death, sometime between 1860-1870. John, his wives, David and several other family members are buried in the Kirkland Cemetery. John appears to have lived in the same home in Kirkland, Oneida Co. NY from 1816 until his death in 1876. This is verified by a Deed from Moses COOK selling John Lot #5, Cox's Patent in Paris, Oneida Co. NY. Kirkland was formed from Paris in 1829. John was married 4 times, (1st) Mary COOK, (2nd) Lucy ARNOLD, (3rd) Martha DOUGLAS and (4th) Eunice STOCKWELL. Mary COOK is believed to be a niece of Moses COOK. Based on census, they had 1 son of which nothing is known. Lucy is believed to be the wid. of Dr. Whitman GILBERT of MA. They had 3 daughters, Aristeen, Loreen and Mary Jane. Martha DOUGLAS, my gg-grandmother, is the daughter of Isaac & Sarah (GLEASON) DOUGLAS and a descendant of the Clan Douglas of Scotland. Ancestry is included here. They had 2 sons, Gardner D GREEN, my g-grandfather, and Edward C GREEN. They also had a daughter, Lucietta who died at age 7. Eunice STOCKWELL married John 14 May 1850. No children.

Need help with my "Brick Wall"

Who were the parents of John & David Green? We know John was born in NY and his brother was born in RI. The family must have moved from RI btw. 1785-1790. John of Paris, purchases from Moses COOK,  Lot#5 in Paris, Oneida NY Dec. 27, 1816 (recorded Mar. 30, 1818). John is found on all census records from 1820 to 1870 in Paris / Kirkland, Oneida, NY. I have not positively located David on any census records except 1850 & 1860. John & David are both buried in Kirkland Cemetery although no stone was found for David. Theory - John & David are the sons of Jedediah & Waitstill "Waite" (BATES) GREENE - of RI, moved to German Flatts, Herkimer NY in 1790. Later, they moved to Paris, Oneida NY. There were 10 children, including a David, all born in RI. David was born between 1780-1790. Due to the lack of record keeping I believe the birth of John (David's brother, my gg-gfr) went unrecorded.

Our Related Cousin Ancestry Tangled Branches To add to the confusion !!!

A note about this ancestry: I have include some family lines that extend back many hundreds of years into European history. Both the Douglas and Greene lines claim "William the Conqueror, King of England" in their lineage. Although included, there is very little documentation for supporting these claims. The Douglas line is probably more accurate because their history was recorded back to "Robert the Bruce".

Greene arrivals to America before 1700 these GREENE / GREEN lines are all related by marriage after arriving in America John Green (of Quidnessett) b.1606 Gillingham, Dorchester, ENGLAND settled in Quidnessett, Washington, RI. John Green (the Surgeon) b.1589/90 Gillingham, Dorsetshire, ENGLAND settled in Warwick, Kent, RI. (John is the cousin to William of Woburn & John of Salem MA) Thomas Green Sr. (of Malden) b.1606 St. Albans, Hertfordshire, ENGLAND settled in  Ipswich, Essex, MA then Malden, MA. (Colonial Families of the United States of America: Volume 5 - states Thomas is a descendant of Thomas de Greene of Boughton, Northamptonshire, ENGLAND. This makes him a cousin to John the Surgeon.) James Green (of Malden) b.~1610 of ENGLAND settled in Malden, Middlesex, MA Henry Green (of Hampton) b.1620 settled in Hampton, Rockingham, NH. John Green (of Haverhill) b.1618 settled in Haverhill, Essex, MA (father unknown) William Greene (of Woburn) b.1591 of Devonshire, ENGLAND settled in Woburn, Middlesex, MA (William is the brother of John of Salem & cousin to John the Surgeon) John Greene (of Salem) b .1593 of ENGLAND settled in Salem, Essex MA, d.1658 Charlestown, MA (John is the brother of William of Woburn & cousin to John the Surgeon) Greene's without a link, so far! these GREEN(E) lines are NOT related with the above lines after arriving in America. Percival Greene (of Cambridge MA) b.1603 of ENGLAND settled in Cambridge MA, d.1639 Cambridge, MA. William Greene (of Plymouth Colony) ba.1660 settled in Plymouth, MA and d.bef.1686 in Plymouth. William Green (of Gorton MA) b.1631 of ENGLAND settled in Gorton, MA & mar. Mary Crispe John Green (of Kittery, ME) ba.1590 ENGLAND settled in Kittery, York, ME Thomas Greene (of St Mary's MD) ba.1615 ENGLAND settled in St Mary's City, St Mary's, MD Bartholomew Green (of Cambridge MA) ba.1585 settled in Cambridge MA, d.1635 John Green (of Stamford CT) b.1620-30 ENGLAND settled in Stamford, Fairfield, CT Robert Green (of Baltimore MD) b.1674 settled in Baltimore, MD Joseph Green (of Weymouth, Norfolk, MA) ba.1636 settled in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA Pres. Abraham Lincoln was the 4th great-grandnephew of his wife. Thomas Green, II (of Chester PA) ba.1640 settled in Concord, Delaware, PA Richard Greene (of Hunterdon NJ) b.1652 Pinchbeck, County Lincoln, ENGLAND his line later settled in Rutherford, NC Richard Green (of Rye, Rockingham, NH) b.09 Jul 1759, ENGLAND may have links to John GREEN of Kittery, York, ME Peter Green, Sr. (of Marblehead, Essex, MA) ba.1690 Anyone studying their GREEN ancestry is well aware of the confusion and error that covers the internet. I am sure that it has planted itself in my research as well. I have made a lot of notes included in the Tree explaining my research. Hopefully, I have corrected some errors that will benefit others who read them.

Some Famous and Some Infamous

Douglas, Martha 1798 - September 06, 1845 My G-Grandmother Martha was married to John Green (my GG-grandfather) of Kirkland, Oneida NY. Martha was the 12th Great Granddaughter of George (Red Douglas Clan) Douglas of Scotland. George was married to Mary Stewart, daughter of Robert III, King of Scotland. Martha was also the 12th Great Grandniece of James I, King of Scotland. Ancestry - Robert (of Scotland) Douglas NOTE...as much as I would like to believe LDS, the facts do NOT completely support this ancestry. Check the DOUGLAS link for my theories on William Douglas b.1610 and father Robert Douglas b.1588 of CT. GREENE, John, Jr. August 15, 1620 - November 27, 1708 Deputy Governor for Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. Ancestry - John (the Surgeon) Greene GREEN, Jonas December 28, 1712 - April 11, 1767 Printer and Cousin to Benjamin Franklin Publisher for the Maryland Gazette The home is now a Bed & Breakfast at 124 Charles Street, Annapolis, Maryland 21401 Ancestry - Bartholomew (of Cambridge MA) Green http://www.inn-guide.com/jonasgreen/ GREENE, Mary ba. 1650 My 7th Great-Grandmother. Married Peter GREENE  ba.1645 She was convicted of witch craft during the "Salem Witch Trials" in 1692. Ancestry (of Mary) - Henry Green b.1620 of Hampton, NH (of Assington, S, ENGLAND) Ancestry (of Peter) - John Green b.1618 Haverhill, Essex, MA and Ipswich, Essex, MA http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/surveypass/salem/witchcraft/home.html GREENE, Nathaniel July 27, 1742-June 10, 1786 Maj. General, American Revolution. Ancestry - John (the Surgeon) Greene GREENE, Ray (Hon.) February 02, 1765 - January 11, 1849 Attorney General of RI, U.S. District. Attorney & U.S. Senator Ancestry - John (the Surgeon) Greene GREEN, Sanford Moon 30 May 1807 - 22 Jun 1881 10th Justice, Michigan Supreme Court 1848 - 1857 GREEN, Theodore Francis October 02, 1867 - May 19, 1966 U.S. Senator & Gov. of RI Ancestry - Thomas (of Malden MA) Greene, Sr. GREENE, William Sr. March 16, 1695/96 - February 23 - 25, 1758 Governor of Rhode Island, several terms btw. 1743-1758. Ancestry - John (the Surgeon) Greene GREENE, William Jr. August 16, 1731 - November 29, 1809 Governor of Rhode Island, several terms btw. 1778-1786. Ancestry - John (the Surgeon) Greene GREENE, Deborah Wife of Samuel WARD, Gov. of RI Ancestry - John (the Surgeon) Greene

"The Greene's of Rhode Island with Historical Records of English Ancestry 1534-1902" compiled from the MSS. of the late Major-General George Sears Greene, U.S.V. by Louise Brownell Clarke Published in New York in 1903   General George Sears Greene   <Quote> OF THE ORIGINAL, ANTIQUITY, NAME, ARMS, ALLIANCES, GREATNESS AND POSSESSIONS OF THE HOUSE OF GREENE. Of the origin of the House of Greene we have no certain information, but it is apparent they assumed their Name and Arms from an allusion to their principal and beloved lordship, which was Buckton, or the Town of Bucks, in the county of Northampton, being in the Hundred of Spelho, a place memorable for the excellence of its soil and situation and a spacious and delightful green upon which, at the desire of the Lords, was yearly held and exercised a Fair with particular and extraordinary privilege. Hence they were called "Greene" or "of the Greene." And from Buckton or the town of Bucks they have assumed for their Arms in a field azure Three bucks trippant. In the first mention of the family, we find it in a very flourishing condition, possessed of the Manor of Buckton from which the Lords thereof did take their usual style as also of the lordships of Heyborne, Heydmoncourte, Dadington, Ashby Mares and Grene's Norton, the latter whereof was held by particular obligation of holding up the lord's right hand toward the King upon Christmas day wherever he should be at that time in England. And of these was Lord Sir Thomas of Buckton, or Sir Thomas Grene of Buckton who lived in the reign of King Edward I. Of these Grene's we find divers to have been qualified by their riches and power and the esteem they held for the principal employments in the counties where they lived. Among the other advantages of this House the great blood of which it was participant did honor it very much, it having had the fortune to ally itself to the great Houses of Stafford, De La Zouche, Mauduit, Talbot, Ferrers of Chartley and Rosse, all of the illustrious and old nobility. But at last, coming to the fortune of all transitory things, it concluded in Sir Henry Grene who, being without issue male, the Arms, blood and inheritance of this family came by a daughter to the Veres that were Lords of Addington and from them by another heir to the present Earl of Peterborough.----Halstead. ORIGIN OF THE NAME The following memorandum attached to, or a part of the parchment pedigree of the "House of Greene" presented to the Boston Athenaeum Library in 1881 by Williaqm Batchelder Greene, was possibly made by Mr. Burt, the compiler of the chart. The theory as to the origin of the name Grene or Greene is well worthy of consideration, and the three points upon which the connection of Sir Henry Grene, Lord Chief Justice of England, is based, are certainly sufficiently strong to awaken the interest of all those who bear the name in America. HOUSE OF GREENE LORDS OF BUCKTON, ETC., COUNTY NORTHAMPTONSHIRE. On origin: "The name of this family is not of Saxon or Scandinavian origin as its present form might suggest, such as Wood, Vale, Green, etc., names taken from localities and found in almost every country of modern Great Britain. During the 12th & 13th centuries flourished a number of minor Barons (i.e., not possessing more, or as much as, thirteen knight's fees and a quarter) bearing the name of De la Greene (or Grene) in Co. Northampton. Sir Henry Greene, Lord of Buckton, may be counted with these by three facts; First, that on one of his seals attached to an Indenture now in the archives of the British Museum, is found the inscription---'Sigill (Henri) ci Grene, Milit,' (this in old English characters); Secondly, that the said Sir Henry held his lands in capite by the same service as the feudal lords before mentioned, i.e., by lifting up the right hand on Michaelmas Day wherever the King should be in England (Harl. MSS.); Thirdly, all these claim much the same family alliances (as found on their various records and on their tombs). Tracing the name further back, we find the name De la Grene replaced by Del Grene (the latter seems to have been one of the latest of the Lords of the township of Newsholm) and before the Norman Conquest the name of Greene disappears all together and we are said to find Grini or Del Grini in counties York and Northampton. this would show the great antiquity of the family as well as suggest a Latin origin. It is worthy of note that a patrician family existed at Rome, shortly after the Roman conquest, of the same name, and that the name is still borne by certain nobles in the northern part of Italy near Belluno. In addition to the above memorandum are a few notes on the opposite upper corner of the chart; the first giving names and baptisms of the children of John Greene, who emigrated to the American colonies, and others referring to General Nathaniel Greene of the Revolutionary Army and descendant of said John; also to that line of his descendants who settled in New Hampshire (records now partially erased); and to the Gardiner Greene's and Copley-Greene's of Boston. In another handwriting is a note relating to the Greene's of Ireland on the authority of Burke, being endorsed, "signed by Sir Bernard Burke." It has special interest in connection with the recently published pedigree following "Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire," where descent is claimed by this Irish branch from the Northamptonshire family, though proof is not conclusive. <End Quote> New research has been published on George Sears GREENE. I have not read the book but this is the title and a website for the publisher. "THE FORGOTTEN HERO OF GETTYSBURG" (A BIOGRAPHY OF GENERAL GEORGE SEARS GREENE)   by David W. Palmer   ISBN: 1-4134-8143-4 (Trade Paperback)   ISBN: 1-4134-6632-X (Hardback)   Pages: 347     It is published by Xlibris Corporation and available in hardcover and soft cover editions. The publisher's website is www.xlibris.com and the book is located in the column listing "bookstore." Just type in the author, title, or keyword (Gettysburg or Greene) and you will see the book with all the information you need.

Websites with additional information

The Greene Family History England to America: Massachusetts, Rhode Island, western North Carolina and Beyond From Alexander De Boketon of Old Europe to the New World